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before the second presidential debate. they will be hitting it hard in the debate. romney and ryan in friendly territory here in fishersville. the rally won't be until later on today because they want all those sound bites from last night's debate to marinate before romney and ryan take it stage here today. bill: john roberts in the western part of virginia. martha: while all this marinates. president obama has been hit with some criticism from some republicans for bringing former president bill clinton into the mix. >> we tried both approaches. the approach governor romney is talking about is the same sales pitch that was made in 2001 and 2003. and we ended up with the slowest job growth in 50 years, we ended up moving from surplus to deficits, and it all culminated in the financial crisis since the great depression. bill clinton tried the approach i'm talking about. we created 23 million you are in jobs. we went from deficit to surplus, and businesses did very well. martha: don't forget that bill clinton did very well for this president at his convention. but there is karl rove's
in 2008. governor romney trailing in the polls currently hoping to use his debate performance to narrow the gap. it was the first time the two candidates were on stage face-to-face, a chance for governor romney to one-on-one answer allegations that the obama campaign has been firing his way. one of them over this idea that governor romney is trying to implement a $5 trillion tax cut for the rich. he repeatedly answered that question for president until it finally came down to this. >> look i've got five boys. i'm used to people saying something that is not always true, but just keep on repeating it and ultimately hoping i'll believe it. but that is not the case, all right. i will not reduce the taxes paid by high income americans. >> that is probably as close as last night's debate came to a memorable line. rather than being a selection of zingers it was uncharacteristic lee marked by substance, jon. jon: isn't that amazing, substance in a debate. what about the president's performance, and specifically senior voters and his appeal to them? >> reporter: you know, i think in the aftermat
and health care. and by most accounts, it was mitt romney who emerged the victor. lots of debate analysis ahead on "starting point." we'll be talking live with john mccain of arizona and rand paul of kentucky. from team obama, we'll be speaking with martin o'malley and campaign spokeswoman, jen psaki. plus, obama's former economic adviser, austan goolsbee. first, though, a look at the instant reaction from the debate in the cnn/orc poll, of debate watchers taken right after the debate, 67% say they think romney won. 25% only thought the president won. cnn's dana bash joins us this morning to go over some of the hits and some of the misses. good morning. >> good morning. well, i'm here in new york, so maybe we should talk about what happens, how you get to carnegie hall, practice, practice, practice. and is that clearly is what helped the mitt romney. he spent a lot of time practicing, really for the past month doing these mock debates. and when it comes to the president, he was rusty. right out of the gate, it was clear. mitt romney came to play. >> the president has a view very similar t
be shaken earlier than this. >> one of the things that governor romney tried to eject into the first debate is the bipartisan image but the new york times came out over the weekend saying that his tenure as governor was anything but bipartisan. quote, democrats complained he ignored, assaulted, or opposed him. he vetoed legislation initiatives. he exercised budget line items, a remarkable 844 times. i mean, that's an incredible amount of times. >> well, i had the opportunity to be with some legislators from massachusetts who said, look at the vote that is going to be in massachusetts for president of the united states and you get a sense of just how bipartisan mitt romney was. he is going to lose massachusetts overwhelmingly because as the governor -- first of all, his record was all wrong and it was third worse in job creation so he's inventing his record but he's also inventing the bipartisanship. the legislators saw none of that. >> now, michelle, when you say that we were warned that he was going to move to the middle, the problem that he has is so many things remind people of who he wa
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. >> good morning. i'm rob nelson. with a successful debate performance under his belt, mitt romney is distancing himself from his own words about the 47%. >> in the past, he stood by the comments. but overnight, there was a major change. abc's tahman bradley joins us from washington, with more. tahman? >> reporter: good morning, rob and reena. mitt romney is showing a lot of confidence on the stump. and we'll see if his strong debate performance gives him a boost in the polls. but for now, romney is trying to put to rest a controversy that's dogged him for weeks. with his campaign reenergized after a strong showing in wednesday's debate, mitt romney took on the controversy, surrounding his comments that 47% of americans are dependent on government. shortly after a tape of his comments were released, romney said his remarking were not eloquently stated. but in an interview on fox news, he offered a new explanation. >> it's completely wrong. and i absolutely believe, however, that my life has shown that i care about 100%. >> reporter: president obama, meanwhile, is trying to rebound
: before the new jobs numbers, romney had been riding a wave of momentum after this week's debate. he even got a pass from the president who never mentioned romney's comments on the 47% of americans who don't pay federal income taxes. >> there are 47% of the people who vote for the president no matter what. >> reporter: with an obama campaign ad still repeating those, romney tried to put an end to the controversy once and for all on fox. >> clearly in a campaign with hundreds and thousands of speeches and question and answer sessions, now and then you're going to say something that doesn't come out right. in this case i've said something that's completely wrong. >> reporter: romney heads next to florida where his economic message will still resonate. that state's unemployment rate while it has gone down in recent months is still well above the national average. wolf. >> jim acosta joining us, thanks very much. let's dig deeper right now with our chief political analyst gloria borger. gloria, this unemployment number, the new number, how important is it to each of these two candidates? >> w
this. this could be mitt romney's debate the capital one cash rewards card gives you a 50% annual bonus. and everyone, but her... likes 50% more cash. but, i have an idea. do you want a princess dress? yes how about some cupcakes? yes lollipop? yes! do you want an etch a sketch? yes! do you want 50% more cash? no you got talent. [ male announcer ] the capital one cash rewards card. with a 50% annual cash bonus it's the card for people who like more cash. what's in your wallet? i usually say that. neil: as head of the nonstop business coverage ahead of the debates i can now pass along my conclusion. the challenger it matters a lot. the one chance he has to share the same stage with the president. advantage mitt romney eye-to-eye with the presidents. ameritech and see the president they know or that one standing next to him is the one the want to know. is from may up to the challenge dismissing the attacks that the fall the challenger? that is why a president of there it is up to the challenger to let fleeing this same again as ronald reagan did or confirm as in many thought he beat georg
on the eve of the debate. >> if i worked for mitt romney i would instruct him to bring it up. >> you would. >> bring it up to knock it down. to disavow it. in other words, romney, he had a really wonderful opportunity, remember when rush limbaugh said those hateful things about sandra fluke, that georgetown law student, he had a great opportunity to smack down the fanatical fringe. he didn't do it. it was a missed opportunity. doesn't mean romney agrees with the crazy things limbaugh said but he missed an opportunity to assert himself against the fringe and this is an opportunity for romney, if he's got any sense and he's a terribly bright guy, a very decent guy, but he's a bit of a coward where the right wing is concerned. i do hope, it would help romney, but he should stand up in that debate and raise it himself and disavow attacks from five years ago on the president that seem to me to be driven perhaps by race rather than economics. >> we'll see if more does come out in the next half hour or so. again, we'll continue it. gloria borger, paul begala, boyce watkins, eric erickson, thank y
that was the real mitt romney we saw at the debates. the confident asserttive romney we saw during the debate is not the romney we have grown used to over the last couple of months. romney has since stood by his 47% statement but now he is rolling it back. here is what he said yesterday. >> it's completely wrong. and i absolutely believe, however, that my life has shown they care about 100%. >> you might think that this new romney is nothing but an act. if you do, you are not alone. here is what the president had to say to a crowd of 30,000 people yesterday in madison, wisconsin. >> i met this very spirited fellow who claims to be mitt romney. but i know it couldn't have been mitt romney because the real mitt romney has been running around the country this past year promising $5 trillion tax cuts for the wealthiest americans. >> romney is rolling out new campaign ads as well as new talking points over the next few days and weeks. his goal is to convince the american public that he is ready to be president. more coming up live after the break. stay with us. matter. >> i woul
yesterday, romney tried to take advantage of his strong showing in this week's debate. >> he will raise taxes on small business which will kill jobs. i instead want to keep taxes down on small business, so we can create jobs. >> the real mitt romney has been running around the country for the last year, promising $5 trillion in tax cuts, that favor the wealthy. >> stronger president than we saw during the debate, huh. heading into the second debate, the obama campaign says it is changing strategy. advisers admit the president gave long-winded answers that did not connect emotionally with the audience. what a difference a day makes. >> absolutely. >> timid and lethargic wednesday. then that yesterday. >>> absolutely. forget any preconceived notions you may have about elephants and their eating habits. take a look at these polite little elephants you see here with table manner that would make emily post smile. >> not only that, the asian elephants are working on maintaining their girlish figures stick with fresh fruits and veggies. visiting des moines, iowa, through the weekend as part of
is certainly on for the first debate between the president and governor romney. both candidates are going through final debate preparations before meeting face-to-face tomorrow night. the president spending the day with his staff in nevada, governor romney already in colorado where we find our campaign carl cameron live in denver. carl, it's been said that governor romney has a lot riding on these debates. what are you hearing about his prep? is he going for a knockout punch if you will? >> reporter: well the romney campaign would really prefer their knockout punch to come on election day. we are 35 days exactly from that now, five weeks from the day. with the debate tomorrow mr. romney is hoping to put this into the context of sort of a comprehensive approach gliding into election day, or rather charge into it. his aides yesterday said his first debate is a big opportunity for him to introduce himself to the country. they realize there are three more presidential debates and a vice presidental debate in this final one-month period w. that said there are a whole series of criticisms that
people, actually, who has debated both barack obama and mitt romney, so you are in a unique place to tell me what you made of both of their performance. whatever way you spin this from the republican side, the job front has to be good news not only for the president but also america, but the number has now gone down to 7.8% for the first time since 8% of his presidency. >> i think that's found to be good news, but i also think you have to take it in the context that 7.8% is still unacceptably high. but it is good news, and i think it's going to be of some help to the president, but certainly with the numbers of unemployed americans we have now, the 23 million, i guess it is, it's still an unacceptable situation. i think the president will concede that. >> jack welsh said today, unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything, can't debate so change the numbers. is there any merit to the argument these numbers aren't quite what they seem? >> i would be very cautious about saying that, piers, unless i had some kind of substantiation to it, and, of course, we don't want to sou
presidential faceoff. president obama, governor mitt romney cramming for their first debate tomorrow night in denver. and new questions about whether the president's health care law could soon be back before the u.s. supreme court. judge andrew napolitano weighs in. >>> and jaw-dropping pictures you won't want to miss. wait until you see what cameras caught when discovery tv intentionally crashed a 727 jet liner in an investigation, where's the safest place for you to sit when you fly? we're going to show you, all "happening now." gregg: hello, everybody, i'm gregg jarrett in for jon scott. jenna: hi, everybody, i'm jenna lee. brand new polling out today giving us a snapshot of how the race for the white house is shaping up on the 'of the first -- on the eve of the first presidential debate. the latest quinnipiac poll showing the president leading among likely voters, and that matters. [laughter] take a look at this poll, this same poll shows a much wider gap among women voters. the president holding a commanding lead, 56-38% among likely women voters nationwide. so why is governor romney
. >>> mitt romney and president obama face off if their first debate tonight. two experts weigh in coming up. >>> let's dig deeper now, president obama and mitt romney take the stage tomorrow night, how they look, what they say during the debate could speak volumes over what they actually say. their body language speaks volumes. we have an associate professor at harvard business school. she joins me now. you say when it comes to gestures, ones that convey power and warmth are really important to making effective politician, and you point to former president bill clinton as master of warmth. i want to show a video of him during a town hall with ross per roet and then president bush back in 2002. >> you know people who lost their homes and lost their homes? >> uh-huh. >> he's walking toward this woman, toward this voter, away from the people on stage. so he's focused on the voter, not on the other candidates. he's gentle, his body language is gentle. he's leaning toward her, he's even softened his voice. he's nodding, makes incredible eye contact. he signals to people when he is talking to the
certainly does. americans watched those debates that may not watch the next two, that saw a mitt romney that was a direct contradiction to the hundreds of millions of dollars worth of attack ads, especially in swing states, that the obama campaign has spent painting mitt romney as some kind of insensitive clueless bank accounts at the cayman islands kind of guy, and he wiped all that away. and also, i think it was pretty clear that for the first time, the president was put on the defensive as far as his record is concerned. and that's because of this bubble he's been in for the last four years and he obviously couldn't defend it. finally, piers, i thought one of the seminal moments in that debate was near the end, when jim lehrer talked about the lack of bipartisanship, the lack of sitting down together and averting this fiscal cliff that most americans know we're headed towards, and mitt talked about being governor of massachusetts, reaching across the aisle, having to negotiate, et cetera. the president's responses, sometimes you have to say no to people. is that, you know, and the fa
've been one of the only people who debated both barack obama and mitt romney so you're in a unique place to tell me what you made of the new style romney and indeed, obama. before we get there, though, today's big news on the jobs front. whichever way you spin this from the republican side, this has to be good news not only for the president but also america, that the number's now gone down to 7.8% for the first time going below 8% in his presidency. >> well, i think that's bound to be good news but i also think you have to take it in the context that 7.8% is of course still unacceptably high but it is good news, and i think it's going to be of some help to the president. but certainly with the numbers of unemployed americans we have now, 23 million i guess it is, it's still an unacceptable situation. i think the president will concede that. >> jack welch has said today unbelievable job numbers, he tweeted. the chicago guys will do anything, can't debate so they change the numbers. is there any merit to the argument that these numbers aren't quite what they seem? >> i would be very cauti
of mitt romney. here is how it looked this afternoon. [video clip] >> we also had our first debate last night. when i got onto the stage, i met this very spirited fellow who claimed to be mitt romney. [laughter] but it couldn't have been mitt romney, because the real mitt romney has been running around the country for the last year promising $5 trillion in tax cuts to favor the wealthy. the fellow on stage last night said he did not know anything about that. [laughter] the real mitt romney it says we don't need any more teachers in our classrooms. [boos] don't boo, vote. [applause] >> some of the beginning of this rally this afternoon. about five more minutes of your phone calls, your reaction to the debate, what you saw in denver. columbia, maryland, on the independent line. >> good afternoon. just a couple of observations. i just watched obamas rally in denver. i just sat there thinking, wow, where was this guy last night? i really wish he had been a little tougher on romney. i think he had opportunity after opportunity to check him, but he didn't. but i still think in the end obama i
decisive i think that pretty much any other debate than any of us here can remember. i thought gov. romney did a fabulous job on both the relative basis. comparing mitt romney with performances that we usually see, quite fabulous. on a nominal basis, he did very, very well. i think it is true to say president obama is a superior or turk. i think mitt romney is a better debater. romney, you know, we saw something that we had not seen in a long time. it occurred to me that this reminded me more of the mitt romney i met in 1994 when he was running for the senate and came by and met with me and was incredibly an impressive and analytical and fact driven and pragmatic. this was that guy, not so much the person who had been pretending to be an ideologue for the past few years. obama seemed to be like a team sitting on a lead. i would not have said smog it, i would have just said somebody who did not seem to be terribly hungry for it. -- i would not say smug, just somebody that was not hungry for it. i did not really big in these examples after, i do not particularly care for them. -- these insta
to romney last night. governor rendell, you have been in a lot of tough debates. i don't know what you thought. i guess i'm known as an obama supporter and i certainly wanted him to do well last night, and yet i don't get it. i don't quite get it. i thought romney's performance, let's call it that, was masterful. i don't know what the president was up to last night. your thoughts. >> well, i agree with andrew sullivan. i think he's right on in all his points and i agree with you. romney did -- governor romney was terrific last night. he did all the things he has to do to get back in this race, and i am also mystified at the president's strategy. you know, chris, i'm a good sports fan. in fact, i even do sports tv and i write -- >> i know you do. >> and there's a great sports analogy. when you play the perfect defense when you have a lead, when you try to sit on the ball in basketball when you have got a lead, when you play conservative, what often happens is you lose the lead. and i can't for the life of me believe that that's what they did, but that's the only explanation. they told t
remember how in the first presidential debate mitt romney raised political da seat and lying into an art form. mr. romney may not win the white house but he should certainly win the toby for best actor in a presidential debate. thanks for watching. "hardball" is next. >>> the day after. let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good eke. i'm chris matthews back in washington. let me start tonight with two big questions, "hardball" questions if you will. one, why? why did what happened last night happen? why did a president who has proven himself as a policy expert and world class politician let the other guy take charge? because if he can't answer that question, he may be doomed to defeat in the remaining two debat debates. second big question, can a victory over the facts of last night's debate, what was true and what was not, turn the tables now? can barack obama win by getting out the word he didn't get out last night? and both are big questions tonight that might just decide this presidential election. i'm joined by governor ed rendell and ron reagan, both msnbc analysts. this is a tough blog b
ball, but two, two enormous balls. ha-ha-ha! >> mitt romney won the debate last night, which means president obama lost two fights on his anniversary last night. the president seemed a little bit out of it last night. he had all the enthusiasm of a husband talking to his wife's friends at a dinner party. he kept looking down and frowning. it was like he was trying to find something on apple maps. the only thing that could have salvaged obama's performance is if the body of bin laden could have fell from the ceiling onto the stage. >> obama could have waterboarded alladin, put down blue, deported dora the explorer and won walking away. romney won with the sound off. look up, look up. what are you writing's so important? oh, that's -- that is impressive work. >> oh, my gosh, i love that. >> finally, to another race, one as close as the presidential contest. >> family circle's, cookie bake-off, ann romney's m & m, versus michelle obama's white and dark chocolate chip cookies. >> another waner by 51 pptd 5% to 41.5%, 287 votes, michelle obama takes the sweep. here's a look at the cooki
that the middle class pain was due to bush policies. that romney and ryan want to repeat. the debate symbolizes a problem for the president. even though the economic collapse happened under bush, four years later, families are still hurting. many in the middle class are barely treading water. all guaranteed fodder for tomorrow night's debate in denver. the first lady is making her way there. first stop in ohio. >> are you fired up? >> reporter: where early voting began today. >> are we going sit back and watch everything we worked for and fought for to just slip away? >> reporter: ann romney got to colorado before her. >> we have a debate coming up. we're excited about that. we're focused. >> reporter: family members' nerves are on edge, as josh romney confided to diane in august. >> i hate the debates. trying to sit there and be cool and keep a smile on your face. inside you want to fall down. >> reporter: four years ago, michelle obama would get so nervous during the debates she didn't like to watch them. she'll be there tomorrow in the debate hall. we turn to david muir who is there. david?
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, then perhaps your ears picked up during this year's debate, when mitt romney talked about federal funding and took on pbs in the process. it was one of the memorable moments in the debate, when mitt romney called for an end to government funding of the moderator's own network. >> i am going to stop the subsidy to pbs, i like big bird, i like you too, but i won't keep spending on things to get china to pay for it. >> but while he didn't have an attack that night, president obama talked about it the next day. >> he will do away with regulations on wall street, but he will crack down on sesame street. thank goodness, somebody is finally cracking down on big bird. pbs has been a favorite target of mostly conservative politicians for years. when he was house speaker, gingrich called it a little sand box for the rich, prompting us to ask some parents what they thought about it. >> i think he chose the wrong target. >> the network of sesame street and the civil war and masters, pbs has 179 stations across the country, including some smaller rural stations that couldn't make it without the subsid
attention until after the conventions. and what happens in the next couple debates, governor romney has to keep performing because surely the president will up his game in the next couple of debates. >> brett o'donnell, appreciate your time. thank you. >> good to be with you. >>> the counterattack jewish and christian leaders are launching in response to this controversial ad. the wheels of progress haven't been very active lately. but because of business people like you, things are beginning to get rolling. and regions is here to help. making it easier with the expertise and service to keep those wheels turning. from business loans to cash management, we want to be your partner moving forward. so switch to regions. and let's get going. together. ♪ atmix of energies.ve the world needs a broader that's why we're supplying natural gas to generate cleaner electricity... that has around 50% fewer co2 emissions than coal. and it's also why, with our partner in brazil, shell is producing ethanol - a biofuel made from renewable sugarcane. >>a minute, mom! let's broaden the world's energy mix
tonight will the moderator of the presidential debate will ask mr. romney about the 47 comment. will they ask about this particular video that shows then senator obama showing that the neglect of new orleans was racial. >> down in new orleans, where they still have not rebuilt 20 months later. there is a federal law when you get reconstruction money from the federal government called the staford act and when you get federal matter you have to give a 10 percent match from the local government. when 9/11 happened in new york city, they waived the staford act. they said this is too serious of a problem and we can't expect new york city to lebuild on its own. forget that dollar. that was the right thing to do. what is happening down in new orleans? where is your dollar? where is your staford act money? it makes no sense. trust me, the bullet hasn't been taken out. it tells me that the people down in new orleans doesn't care as much. >> steve: you can see it in the entirity in the daily caller.com. he said the people of new orleans got the shaft and people who suffered from 9/11 or
romney, all part of the preparations for the first debate . in a few hours it will be the real thing and it is live in denver. >> security preparation is at the highest level in denver as the president and the man who hopes to take his job will be in the same room at the same time. something that rarely ever happens. we can show you inside of the university of denver. things are coming along as the staff set the stage for the event. the cand dates are expected to have walk throughs later on today. governor romney took to practicing with ohio senator rob portman. they stopped by chipolte for lunch. his opponents was at the hoover dam. he's been in a debate camp with john kerry. one thing to consider as we head in tonight. early voting is underway in some states and that raises the stakes. >> the first debate is a huge deal . some people can go out and vote the next day. in colorado, people can vote the next week before the other debates even occurred. if there is an immediate affect you will see it in the ballot box. >> the debate gets underway 9:00 eastern time . 7:00 denver time. >>
heard from mitt romney and also from paul ryan and what you thought about the debate. you can call us at at 202-585- 3885 if you are a democrat. call 202-585-3886 if you are a republican. call 202-585-3887 if you are an inindependent. we have a caller on the line. go ahead. caller: i believe that these two have sold their souls to the douevil. i think that they are hypocrites. total hypocrites. >> we have a republican caller from florida. go ahead. caller: i feel like, maybe, it seems like every year some blame them for what they have dawn or have not done. what is really going to happen? >> anger facebook page showed the people won the -- mitt romney won the debate last night. -- on our facebook page, a majority of people said that mitt romney won the debate last night. who did you think one? caller: i think it was mitt romney. >> let's go to our next call from oregon. caller: i was really impressed with that debate last night. we need a good businessman. i think we need some new energy and new ideas. spending is out of control. we need a party that can get it under control and i thi
pulled a lot of his punches in his debate with governor romney, so if the original strategy was for biden to go in with a soft touch against paul ryan, we can be sure that that is going out the window. he is coming out swinging. gloves off. now, romney was able to dodge blows against his economic plan because actually there's not much of a plan there to jab at. take his strategy for economic recovery, to fill the revenue gap for a result from tax cuts is an exercise in shadow boxing futility. he hasn't yet told us what it is he's planning to do. but by hitching his wagon to paul ryan and endorsing ryan's budget plan, he attached himself to clearly articulated policy and a record that leaves the whole ticket exposed to attack which gives joe biden an opening to hit romney so hard -- to hit ryan so hard that mitt romney is going to feel it too. from the sound of it, the vice president seems to be getting his weight up. >> what i've been doing mostly is quite frankly, studying up on congressman ryan's positions. i just want to make sure that when i say these things that i don't have the cong
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